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> The Great TSM Wrestling Survey
Posted by DrVenkman PhD - 12-1-08 05:59 - 26 comments
Greetings TSM!

It's your good pal Stephen here. Many of you know me best as my TSM persona "DrVenkman PhD" but today we're going to be prying deep (or not so deep) into what makes - or perhaps made - your wrestling clocks tick. This is basically kind of exactly like a survey Cheech already did in Site Feedback, but I am trying to put a larger focus on wrestling on this one. Traffic wise, it made sense to launch the survey in the WWE folder, but heck (HECK!) if you've never watched a minute of WWE television and want to talk about why Fedora Town Wrestling rocks the wrestling world, please do. I'm also interested in hearing from the ex-fans that populate the board, but that would require them to actually be in this area to read this, and honestly, almost all of the questions are skewed to current viewers (I'm planning on doing some "why are you LESS interested" type questions, but not many "Why aren't you interested at all?" questions). Either way, have some fun with it and if you hate this and think it's dumb... well, keep it to yourself. You'll hurt my feeling otherwise (IMG:http://forums.thesmartmarks.com/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Or mention it in the appropriate NHB thread.

General Interest Questions

1. Who are you and what's your business here?

Feel free to not answer this if you don't want to. Basically, if you wish, let us know what your deal is and how you came across TSM Forums.

2. When did you discover an interest in wrestling?
What year/era? Perhaps it was the Showa era? Maybe the Heisei era? 1993? Attitude era? (You get the idea). What angle, match, or wrestler/character do you vividly remember as your first wrestling experience?

3. The Company Line:
A. Which companies have you actively followed in your tenure as a wrestling fan?
B. What have some of your favourite companies been? Your least favourite? (In theory, your answer can be the same - if you were growing up a fan of the technical wrestling WCW brought to the table but thought the end of the line for them was some of the worst television this side of My Mother The Car, that's cool).
C. What is your favourite company right now? Any reason why?


4. (Not So) Favourites:
A. Who were your favourite wrestlers (or gimmicks) growing up / when you first started watching wrestling?
B. Who were some guys you couldn't stand?
C. Who are your current favourites (if applicable / different from A.)
D. There was a 4th question here, but it basically ripped off the entire premise of a thread (or more than one thread, in theory) that already exists in General.


Specific Questions about your Interest


5. How would you gauge your current interest level in the product?
Do you still get butterflies of excitement that make you look forward to upcoming PPVs? Did you ever? Do you watch every televsied wrestling program live, or just a few - and FF'd via DVR at that? If you consider right now to be the most interested in wrestling you've ever been, the rest of the questions in this section can be skipped over.

6. At what point in wrestling history (if it's not now) would you consider your interest to have been at it's peak?
When were you compelled to watch every second of televised wrestling AND shell out money on PPVs, get excited about the release of video games, have TV/PPV parties with friends, etc.

7. At what point could you tell your interest was dipping and why do you think this happened, or what specific event(s) triggered the decrease?

Was there anything even specific? Just a gradual interest loss of interest? Retirement (or death) of a favourite? A boring title reign on SmackDown in the Summer of 2004?

8. Have you ALWAYS stuck with wrestling even during times of low interest, or are there any lengths of time you stopped watching for a period only to come back at a later date?

9. If applicable, at what point did you decide to pack in the wrestling fandom?


Interesting Questions of a Somewhat Random Nature

10. What style of pro wrestling best resonates with your personal tastes?
Has it always been this way, or have your tastes changed over time?

11. Where do you "draw the line" with the whole "suspended disbelief" deal?
Do you tell critics to "relax because it's just wrestling and you should enjoy the matches" (aka TNA fans about everything that happens on Impact!), do you come up with solutions that the writing team didn't bother to think about but you figure "it's there if you read between the lines" (aka "WWE Apologists"), somewhere inbetween, or do you take your greatest joy in watching wrestling to deconstruct everything that makes no sense?

12. Do you attend live events?
And more specifically, do you get a thrill out of big arena shows, do you prefer the smaller 'intimate' settings of the local indy show, or would you rather forget the whole thing and watch everything unfold on your HDTV without dealing with 'the marks'?

13. If applicable, what are the best and worst experiences you've had going to a show live?

14. What are your favourite matches, moments, or events?

15. Freestyle
Add any closing remarks you feel are absolutely necessary to letting TSM know your thoughts on wrestling.

Again, just have fun with it. If it comes off as lame, I apologize, but I'm hoping it brings the "wrestling sections" of the board closer together instead of further apart.
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> WWE General Discussion - December 2008
Posted by DrVenkman PhD - 12-1-08 04:25 - 107 comments
So, the year is just about done, eh?
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> The TSM Fantasy Wrestling Game.
Posted by TheFranchise - 09-22-08 09:17 - 543 comments
QUOTE (Rules)
You can spend up to and including $50m on your 'roster' but not a penny over.
You must keep the same roster from PPV to PPV, and can trade up to three people out, and as many people as you like in, as long as you stay under or up to your $50m limit.
The deadline is 7pm on the evening of a PPV, and your roster will then be eligible for all of the Raw's, SmackDown!'s and ECW's until and including the PPV after. The PPV on deadline day falls under the previous month.
If you don't include your team by the deadline, then your team from the previous month will be re-used.


QUOTE (Scoring)
Two points for every time a superstar makes an appearance on Raw/SmackDown/ECW/PPV (If a superstar appears two times in one show, then he gets four points, and so on).
Two points for competing in a match on Raw/Smackdown/ECW.
Three points for winning a match on Raw/SmackDown/ECW.
Three points for competing in a match on PPV.
Four points for winning a match on PPV.
Eight points for winning a Title.
Two points for successfully defending a Title.
Two points for appearing during the main event of a Raw/Smackdown/ECW show. This is the final match of a show plus any segment(s) after.
Five points for main eventing a PPV.
Three points for competing in a 'speciality' match.
One point for a weapon shot that connects.
One point for every time a finishing move is hit successfully.


IMPORTANT: Please post your team in the thread every month, but also PM me with your monthly team, otherwise it can't be entered. Your team needs to be posted/sent to me the day before the "month" starts.

Month 1 begins with Raw (10/6/08) and ends with Cyber Sunday (10/26/08).
Month 2 begins with Raw (10/27/08) and ends with Survivor Series (11/23/08)
Month 3 begins with Raw (11/24/08) and ends with Armageddon (12/14/08)
Month 4 begins with Raw (12/14/08) and ends with The Royal Rumble (01/25/08)


TSM Fantasy 1 League:

Queries that might come up:

QUOTE
Video packages do not count as appearances.
If any championship is defended, the Champion gets successful defence points for winning the match, or if they lose, or draw, in a way that lets them keep the championship. Ring steps does not count as the ring, so therefore is a weapon shot if used.


QUOTE
Survivor Series Scoring

Elimination Matches:

Appearing = Two points
Match = Three points
Win = Four points
Speciality = Three points
Eliminating Somebody = Two points
Finishing Move Hit = One Point
Weapon Shot = One Point

Even if you get eliminated, and the team you were on won, you still get winning points.


Speciality Match Types:
QUOTE
Triple Threat, Fatal Four Way, Handicap Match, Any other multi-man match, Blindfold, Falls Count Anywhere, Inferno, Iron-man, Lumberjack, Two Out Of Three Falls, Strap, First Blood, Last Man Standing, NO DQ, No Countout, Bar Room/Boiler/Parking Lot Brawl, Punch Out Match, TLC, Ladder, Cage, Elimination Chamber, Hell In A Cell, Royal Rumble, Battle Royal, Gauntlet, War Games, I Quit, Beat The Clock, Unsanctioned


Roster: (finishing moves eligible for point-scoring in brackets)
QUOTE
RAW

Batista 11m - (Batista Bomb)
Beth Phoenix 7m - (Glam Slam, Delayed Fisherman Suplex)
Candice-Michelle 3m - (Candywrapper, Spinning Kicki)
Charlie Haas 3.5m - (Haas Of Pain, Impersonating Wrestlers Finisher)
Chris Jericho 9m - (Walls Of Jericho, Codebreaker)
Chuck Palumbo 2m - (Full Throttle)
CM Punk 8m - (Go To Sleep, Anaconda Vise)
Cody Rhodes 5m - (Evenflow style DVD)
D-Lo Brown 3m - (Lo-Down)
Deuce 2m - (Crack 'em in da Mouth)
Dolph Ziggler 3m - (Standing Moonsault)
Hacksaw Jim Duggan 2m - (Old Glory Knee Drop)
Hardcore Holly 2.5m - (Alabama Slamma)
Jamie Noble 3m - (Fireman's Carry Gutbuster, Trailer Hitch)
JBL 7m - (Clothesline From Hell)
Jillian Hall 2.5m - (Full Nelson Bulldog)
John Cena 14m - (FU, STFU)
JTG 5m - (G9)
Kane 8m - (Tombstone Piledriver, Choke Slam)
Katie-Lea Burchill 2.5m (Spinning Neckbreaker)
Kelly Kelly 3m - (Kelly Killer)
Kofi Kingston 6m - (Trouble In Paradise)
Lance Cade 4.5m - (Sit-Out Spinebuster)
Layla 2.5m - (Roundhouse Kick)
Manu 3m - (Belly To Back Neckbreaker)
Melina 2m - (Charging 180° spinning facebuster)
Mickie James 4.5m - (Mick Kick, MickieDT)
Mike Adamle 5m - (No Finishing move)
Mr McMahon 4m - (McMahon Stunner)
Paul Burchill 3m - (Curb Stomp)
Paul London 3m - (London Calling; Shooting Star Press)
Randy Orton 12m - (RKO, Kick Of Death)
Rey Mysterio 7.5m - (619 followed by Droppin' The Dime)
Ron Simmons 2.5m - (Spinebuster)
Santino Marella 4m - (Snap Swinging Neckbreaker)
Shad 5m - (G9)
Shawn Michaels 11.5m - (Sweet Chin Music)
Snitsky 3m (Pumphandle Slam)
Stone Cold Steve Austin 5m (Stone Cold Stunner)
Ted DiBiase 5m - (Cobra Clutch Legsweep)
Val Venis 2m - (Money Shot)
William Regal 5.5m - (Regal Stretch, Running Knee)


QUOTE
SmackDown!

Big Show 9m - (Choke Slam, KO Punch)
Brie Bella 2.5m - (Diving Facebuster)
Carlito 3.5 - (Back Stabber)
Curt Hawkins 3.5m - (Double Lifting DDT)
DH Smith 2.5m - (Running Powerslam)
Edge 13m - (Spear)
Eve 2m - (No Known Finisher)
Ezekiel Jackson 2.5m - (Torture Rack. Book End)
Festus 4m - (Fireman's Carry Flapjack)
Kung Fu Naki 2m - (Kung Fu Kick)
Gregory Helms 4m - (Shining Wizard, Vertebreaker)
Jeff Hardy 8.5m - (Swanton Bomb)
Jesse 4m - (Diving Leg Drop)
Jimmy Wang Yang 2.5m - (Yang Time)
Kenny Dykstra 3m - (Diving Clothesline)
Maria 2.5m - (Running Bulldog)
Maryse 3m - (Snap DDT)
Michelle McCool 3.5m (Heel Hook, Wings Of Love)
MVP 8.5m (Drive By Kick, Playmaker)
Mr Kennedy 8m - (Mic Check)
Natalya 4m - (Sharpshooter)
Primo Colon 3.5m - (Figure Four Leglock)
R-Truth 4.5m - (Scissors Kick)
Ranjin Singh 2m - (No Known Finisher)
Ryan Braddick 2m - (Second City Slam)
Scotty Goldman 3m - (Chicago Crab)
Shelton Benjamin 5m - (Pay Dirt)
Super Crazy 2m - (Corkscrew Moonsault)
The Brian Kendrick 6m - (The Kendrick)
The Great Khali 6m - (Khali Chop, Vice Grip, Tree Slam)
Triple H 14m - (Pedigree)
Umaga 6m - (Samoan Spike)
Undertaker 14m - (Tombstone, Choke Slam, MMA Type Choke)
Vickie Guerrero 5m - (No Known Finisher)
Victoria 2.5m - (Widow's Peak)
Vladimir Kozlov 6m - (Battering Ram, Reverse DDT)
Zack Ryder 3.5m - (Double Lifting DDT)


QUOTE
ECW

Armando Estrada 2.5m - (Lifting Reverse Falling DDT)
Bam Neely 3.5m - (Full Nelson Slam)
Boogeyman 2.5m - (Falling Choke Bomb)
Chavo Guerrero 4m - (Frog Splash)
Elijah Burke 3m - (Elijah Express)
Evan Bourne 4.5m - (Air Bourne)
Finlay 4.5m - (Celtic Cross)
Gavin Spears 3m - (Running Death Valley Driver)
Hornswaggle 2m - (Tadpole Splash)
Jack Swagger 3m - (Powerbomb)
John Morrison 4.5m - (Moonlight Drive)
Lena Yada 2m - (No Known Finisher)
Mark Henry 5.5m - (Worlds Strongest Slam)
Matt Hardy 6m - (Twist Of Fate)
Mike Knox 3m - (Brainbuster, Knox Out)
Ricky Ortiz 3m - (Big O)
The Miz 4.5m - (Reality Check)
Theodore Long 5m - (No Known Finisher)
Tiffany 2.5m - (No Known Finisher)
Tommy Dreamer 3m - (DDT)
Tony Atlas 2.5m- (No Finisher Currently)


Current standings:


(IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/teamfranchise/month35.jpg)

History:

Month 1 Champion: The Franchise - 325 points
Month 2 Champion: Fazzle - 536 points
Month 3 Champion:
Month 4 Champion:
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> WWE Folder Rules & Guidelines v. 2.0
Posted by Cheech Tremendous - 03-28-08 12:33 - 1 comments
Newest additions are in italics.

Making New Threads

Ideally, with the traffic this forum receives, we should see 2-3 new threads per day. However, we need to keep a few things in mind when starting new threads, lest the forum be cluttered with unnecessary topics.

1 - Has it been posted before, or would it be better suited for an existing thread? Do a scan of at least the first page of the forum, to ensure it hasn't been posted before. Updates on prior news probably doesn't need a new thread, except in exceptional circumstances. Use common sense.

2 - Is it really threadworthy? Run of the mill comments or news do not need their own thread. Try using the Random Thoughts thread for random thoughts. Use the News You Can Barely Use thread for news you can barely use.

3 - Is it relevant? There is a General Wrestling folder on the board for non-WWE items. This folder is also used for fantasy booking and topics that are older than five years. If you want to discuss something that happened more than five years ago, make sure it has relevance to today's WWE.

4 - Try and give an opinion when posting news items. This isn't WO.com. We aren't here for groundbrearking journalism. The idea behind the forums is DISCUSSION.

Posting

I can't believe this next rule still needs to be included, but it seems that it does.

1 - Everyone is entitled to their opinion. There is no right and wrong when it comes to professional wrestling. Give them the opportunity to explain their point of view, then refute it if necessary.

2 - Back things up. If you say Cena isn't a draw, back that up with some numbers. If you think Shawn Michaels sucks, tell us why. We don't want to read inane comments without justification.

3 - When posting news items or editorials from other websites, cite your sources.

4 - No direct copying and pasting of any copyrighted material. This includes newsletters, audio updates, shoot interviews or anything else. Paraphrasing is fine, but absolutely no copying and pasting.

Trolling & Flamebaiting

The following will not be acceptable:

1- Insulting someone directly because of their opinion. Period. Arguments will get heated, but that is not justification for attacking other posters. If you have a problem with another poster, take it Don Dokken's Chocolate Socket.

2. Racism. Don't do it.

On breaking a guideline

If you believe that someone has broken a rule, please do one, or both of the following:

1 - Quote the relevant rule to them. Don't be sarcastic or rude, don't flame, and don't dwell on it. Tell them, and move on.

2 - Send a PM to one of the many (usually) moderators that are reading the forum. We ditched the report button, because unfortunately, people abused it.

Remember this is a message board and we are here to have fun. The rules exist to make sure everyone plays fair.

The moderators are here to make sure things runs smoothly. If you have problems with the forums, or suggestions for improvements, please send a PM or post your concerns in the Site Feedback located towards the lower part of the board.
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> ECW on SciFi, December 2, 2008
Posted by ChrisMWaters - 12-2-08 20:13 - 19 comments
Was wondering when they were going to have Swagger vs. Ortiz.

I think they should have waited until Ortiz beat someone that's a bigger name than his usual first, but that's just me.
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